Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Grace, mercy and peace. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and welcome to the forum at Frazer. So we actually started recording this a few minutes ago and realized that we, we weren't getting everything, so we had to start over. So this is our second try. And then Jackie pointed out that this was because we didn't start out with prayer. And today we are talking about our prayer ministry, both its past, its future, and. Normally I don't have us pray live on air, but I just felt like since she pointed that out that maybe we needed to start with prayer. Jackie, would you mind opening us up in prayer?
[00:00:44] Speaker B: I would be glad to, Father. God, we just give this time to you and Father, ask you to speak through us and guide the time and protect us from the enemy, that everything that's done will be for your glory in Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: And so, yes, today we are talking about our prayer ministry and what has gone on, what will be going on. And I'm going to ask everybody to go around. This is our second time through it, so I appreciate their long suffering, but I am going to start with Jackie. Everyone explain a little bit about who you are and what your relationship to the prayer ministry is.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Thank you. Will appreciate the invitation.
My name is Jackie Lunsford and I've been part of the prayer ministry since it started back in 1989.
Jan Neal, who's sitting next to me, really started it and she's going to share more. But we began with an upper room ministry and that was a prayer room that the vision was for a prayer room where we could go and commit to an hour a week to pray for the prayer requests that were coming in from our congregation, but also from around the community.
And God allowed us to do that. But we didn't have a room when we started. And from there God helped us to grow and people committed to picking up a notebook that had prayer requests in it and finding a quiet place to pray and praying for more volunteers and praying for a place, a room that could be called our prayer room. And we've seen God just bless from there and expand our prayer ministry over the years. It's been awesome to be a part.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: And just because I want everyone to know what an awesome prayer warrior and encourager this lady has been to our church. I just want to add how much I appreciate that she often walks up to me personally, will put her arm around me and ask me what she can be praying for for me. And I know she does that to a lot of people and I just think that's a great example. And I want to just say thank you for that so much, Jackie. I appreciate.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Appreciate you. Well, Jan.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:17] Speaker C: I'm Jan Neal. And as Jackie has, I've been a part of the prayer ministry since its beginning in 89.
And it came about because of a friend of mine whose teenage son was diagnosed with cancer.
And in the course of his treatment, he received in the mail a little piece of paper, a third the size of a letter, a piece of letterhead, I guess, that said, this is a prayer gram, and you've been prayed for by a concerned Christian. And it came from a church in Texas.
And that just really impacted me that someone so far away was praying for this boy that, you know, that that was going through these treatments. And I contacted that church and I got information from them and just got unbelievably excited that we might could duplicate that kind of ministry here, because even before then, the reason I was with this friend all the time was we were praying for her son. I mean, intercessory prayer was my heart.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:18] Speaker C: And I just, I prayed, God, if this is something that we can do. Had no idea where we were going. But we did start in 89, and then I believe in 96. I came on board and actually served on staff for about 25 years in the prayer ministry coordinator's position.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Well. And I was happy just enough to have been able to overlap with you during some of those years and just wanted to say how much I appreciate your legacy here as the prayer minister.
So many creative things, too, that we're going to talk about that you guys did that were very interesting to challenge and inspire prayer and just appreciate what encouragement you've been to us on staff. But also, I. I just, I. I've said often that I think one of the major revolutions reasons why Frazer seems as successful as it has been has been this prayer ministry and the fact that we've had so many people praying consistently throughout the history of this church. So now, Zach, why don't you introduce yourself? You have a new role in this.
[00:05:38] Speaker D: I do. So I am grateful and blessed to have been named our new prayer minister here at Frazer just a week or so ago. And I am so grateful. Thank you for the hospitality and welcome of these two individuals and many of the other saints who have been doing prayer at our church for a very long time.
A little bit about me.
You know, I came here in 2022 as an intern.
[00:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:08] Speaker D: And my first day was our day of Disaffiliation downtown in Montgomery.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:15] Speaker D: And so a little part of my journey and a big part of my internship starting off was getting to intercede in some really important moments that I had no clue about.
That probably has continued all through my time here at Frazer, but it started with going with Pastor Chris to meetings with churches that were struggling with that kind of decision, and going. Asking Chris if I could just intercede for him and intercede for that church while he gave them wisdom and information about how we made it through that process with unity and with freedom on the way out going forward from that. You know, I have been spending a lot of time working in our operations department. I've gotten to pray play.
I've gotten to pray. That's a funny. If we should cut that. But I've gotten to play a great role helping us with our prayer tower revitalization, which is kind of a fun stepping point along the way here. And a lot of people probably recognize me from our worship ministry, but few people know that the first place I started volunteering here at Frazer was actually our altar prayer ministry and just kind of jumped in with worship as well. And that probably grew a little faster then.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:35] Speaker D: But it's been a slow buildup and kind of a surprise, and I've gotten brought into a really meaningful and deep part of our church ministry that maybe I've not known all as much about as I am learning, and it's been a blessing.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's been great getting to know you on staff for the past several years. I just want to say that, you know, you've had a lot of roles thrown at you and different things. Everyone is most familiar, as you say, with your worship kind of role, but that's really the tip of the iceberg. And you've always jumped in with such great enthusiasm, and I am looking forward to you bringing that same energy to the prayer ministry. And we're grateful to have you in this role. I. I know these ladies are especially excited and grateful.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Yes, we are.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: To. To have you there.
So, you know, Jan, you started to touch on it a bit.
If you guys could just tell us a little bit about how the prayer ministry first got off the ground. What were those early days like?
[00:08:40] Speaker C: They were interesting because we didn't know what we were doing, but we were so excited. I can just remember, no matter what we were doing, there was this element of excitement every time we would think about what to do next. But in the early days, as Jackie mentioned, we had the upper room, which really was never upper.
The first prayer room was a supply trailer on the back parking lot.
And it kind of grew from that. But the other thing, and I guess we copied this, you know, just some other ministries, but we were on television nationwide for years.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:18] Speaker C: And of course we were on in the mornings, on Sunday mornings. But we put together a team of volunteers to answer the phones we had up there for prayer call, a 1-800-number. And we had a big room with a bunch of cubicles there, so to speak. But we had, we had a place and we had volunteers who would answer the phones as people called.
And this thing just, I mean, it exploded because people were watching in St. Louis or San Diego or Michigan. I mean, it just. And they were calling from everywhere in these nighttimes. And we were on at night, nine o' clock at night, on Monday nights for years. I think we were on Thursday nights, weren't we, at some point. But at any rate, we would come up here at 9:00 and, you know, for at least an hour answer those phones. And people that called, a lot of times they were just flipping channels, right.
And these were heavy calls. Sunday morning calls were people that were shut in or couldn't get to church that week. Okay, these calls. And we, we were able to pray with people to receive Christ, to follow up with them and send them information and so forth. But the exciting thing was that it was hard at some Monday nights to drag myself up here. But when we would leave at 10 or 10:30 or 11 o', clock, because calls would continue to come in, we were just flying high with what God was doing.
So from the very beginning, it wasn't just internal.
It's a very missional ministry. You know, whether we're praying for missionaries or mission trips or reaching out, you know, to those that are hurting. We have always wanted this to be more than just a prayer ministry here at Frazer. And so that in the early days, because we had that, that gave us a focus and something to think about and where do we want to go and what do we want to do?
But for years it was. Was upper room and telephone and we had a fasting ministry. And then a few years later we started adding like the altar and the hedge, the things that some people may not know what we're talking about there, but, but the various ministries that we have now have all have all grown over the Next, probably within eight or 10 years. Everything that we're doing now.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, we started and of course we're, we're actually on nationwide. We're actually further than nationwide because we're all across the northern hemisphere on TV still and of course on the Internet.
But we, we still have a modern version of that that is we, you know, have the call text in and, or leave voicemails and that's still available and we still have our, our volunteers who help with that.
So we're grateful for the period of time where people were more likely to call in that we were able to supply such a, what was clearly meeting a need at that time, such a unique form of ministry.
Jackie, did you have anything to add to that?
[00:12:23] Speaker B: I was just remembering some of the evenings were so exciting that, you know, we had six or eight volunteers manning different booths. But if somebody had a really heavy call, they might raise their hand and someone would come pray with them and be standing in the gap. You knew it was maybe a possible suicide call or it was a possible praying with them for salvation or someone concerned about their children that were on drugs or something. There was something really heavy going on and this was a time for God to intervene in their lives.
Some of what you feel in worship on 11 o' clock service when you're ministering for God to break the chains. We were doing that kind of praying and it was awesome that God let us be a part.
It was really meaningful. That very first night, Jan and I had to go sit and debrief at 11 o' clock at night at a hamburger place. Just, we can't go home yet. We're just too fired up on what's God doing there.
So it's really neat.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Yeah, well. And I mean, that leads me to my next question, which I think there are a lot of things that prayer ministry has done through the years and are still going on that maybe some of the Frazer family doesn't even know about.
And I just was wondering if you guys wouldn't mind sharing some of the encouraging things that have come out of prayer ministry. If there's any stories or anything like that that come to mind in regards to whether it is the hedge fund protection, I always like, want to jokingly call it the shrub protection because that's what I think of when I think of hedges.
There's a Christian comedian that talks about the praying a hedge around it, and that's because we all know the devil hates shrubbery.
But what kind of stories do you guys have? Because I know I've heard a few that have kind of come out of some of these things. Prayer vigils, all sorts of Stations of the Cross is one of the More recent things, really, although it's been going on for several years now, too.
What do you guys have to offer in that way?
[00:14:49] Speaker C: Well, Stations has been.
It's been one of those things that was a surprise. You know, we didn't know what we were doing when we started that. But actually, that's been going on since 09, so it's been a while.
But to watch people, families go through that together, to have the privilege that, you know, I often had to be there to give communion as they were going out and to talk to people and to see tears. I mean, weeping so often.
And at Stations, we also prayed with people to receive Christ at times.
And then the end of the story or the next part of the story is to see those people really getting involved.
One young man I remember that I prayed to receive Christ with.
He got really involved in the church. And the next year, he was the first volunteer to show up to say, I want to help.
So just seeing and knowing that those prayers in the hallway slowly, like you're talking about, or, you know, at the altar, or when you pray for someone and you can tell because they let you know what God has done in their life.
And I started thinking about that. And there's been so much of that over the years. I was. I was having a tough time of coming up with, you know, particular things because God has.
He has moved. And then what he would do so often with someone that had needed prayer, had asked for prayer, prayer. And then we did a lot of teaching through the years, too, classes and so forth. But then they would join prayer ministry. Then they would say, you know what? This ministry helped me. I'm going to give back now. And what a blessing that is.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And for those who don't, I'm sure most of our Frazer family would be very familiar with Stations of the Cross, but for anybody who is listening, that isn't.
Can you give just a little explanation of what that is?
[00:16:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
It's known more as a Catholic tradition, but on Good Friday, on the day that Jesus was crucified, there were just several things that happened, you know, and of course, if you look at Scripture, the first one is that he was taken before Pilate and he had his trials and so forth. But at each of those events, and we start with garden, we actually start with Jesus praying in the Garden of Gethsemane and put together all this greenery, this beautiful place that you can just go and you can spend the whole time in the garden if you wanted to. But then you go from There.
And we set up tables and decorate, I guess, if you will, and have the scriptures and there's some audio, there's some video. But at each area, we. Where Jesus was mocked, when Jesus actually took up his cross, you know, when he was nailed to the cross, all of these various areas. And I think at this point we have 10 stations or areas ending with the tomb.
And that's one reason we didn't have the tomb the first few years. And once that was added to, that really added to a lot of the emotion, I think, don't you, Jackie? That was coming out of people when they would look. And we had Jesus lying there in the tomb with a light shining on him.
[00:18:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:07] Speaker C: And so that I believe that that has truly impacted a lot of people's life. And, you know, go, go from here, you know, and keep, you know, keep this, this day in your mind and
[00:18:19] Speaker B: in your heart, you know.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: And it started just like two or three days the first year, and now we go all week and we run. We even the last few years have added Easter Sunday morning, people still going through it. And the main difference there is that the tomb is empty when you get to it.
So it's been really cool to see people who come from vastly different church traditions experiencing this, because, as you say, it kind of has a bit of a Catholic connotation to it, but it is very biblical in just walking through what we see in scripture of what's happening there. And so that's just one thing that is an ongoing kind of tradition brought forth by the prayer ministry that I thought was worth highlighting.
Well, Jackie, is there anything that comes to mind when we talk about stories that have come up through the years?
[00:19:29] Speaker B: I think one thing that has been meaningful to me has been we've had different prayer events like vigils, an overnight prayer vigil, or a week long, like in his steps prayer experience where there were stations to work through confession and praying for your decision about in his steps. And like maybe eight different stations in a room.
Excuse me.
And then some prayer conferences that have been working with other churches in the city and given us a chance to experience across denominational and racial lines, working together and praying with others.
And gradually we got involved in having a prayer leaders network that was all across central Alabama that Jan and I were privileged to be a part of and help train prayer leaders all across the community.
And it's so humbling to pray with brothers and sisters that have different styles of prayer and from the quietest to the loudest, from just. Just different. But all touching the heart of God.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: And it helps us all grow to. To be that part of the united church.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: The body of Christ.
And to me, that's very special.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah, no, undoubtedly.
Well, Zach, you're picking up the baton here, and we've just heard from these ladies about some amazing things that have gone on and are still going on in our prayer ministry.
And I think, you know, the next question that is kind of obvious is, so where are we going?
And I know that you've just gotten this role and there, you know, there's probably plenty to unpack, but just in the immediate future, what do you see coming up in the prayer ministry and. Or what. What challenges do you have for our congregation in regards to this?
[00:22:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
You know, the last couple weeks have been just really receiving from a lot of godly people in our church, their, Their input, their reflections on prayer and our prayer ministry. And that has been such a rich deposit in my heart, both as a member of this body and as a praying person.
And, you know, as I've been listening and reflecting, I kind of even just in the time we've been sitting here, have been seeing this thread or, you know, maybe like you could compare it to God's people fingerprints sort of on our ministry. But I see parallels with how God has been working in this prayer ministry and how God worked throughout the whole of Scripture. And if you don't mind me taking a second, you know, if you look at the Bible and you look at the Old Testament as maybe the first act and the New Testament is the second, there are these contrasting stories or narratives going on. The Old Testament one is God needs a specific room that he needs to be worshiped and made and made holy and set apart in. And then this other narrative of God wants to break out and be in all of the Holy Land.
And there are different groups of people who have different perspectives on that. And kind of the question going on in the Old Testament is, how is this going to work? Which answer is correct? It's either or kind of at certain points.
But the big surprise of the New Testament is that Christ comes as the Savior, as the embodiment and the blueprint for something that God really wanted to see that resolves that tension.
And so he imparts to us his spirit. And then Paul, you know, in reflection on what Christ has done, writes all about how we individuals are to be his temple.
We as a body are to be his dwelling.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: Right.
[00:24:16] Speaker D: That we are, you know, living stones. Right.
It's much the same with what's been going on. I think in our prayer ministry, there has always been a prayer of, Lord, we want to have a special place of meeting with you. We want to establish it, and we want it to be a place of deepening and closeness with you. But, Lord, we also want to see your spirit and your presence break outside of these walls and go beyond that building.
And I think that, as Jane was saying, the core mission of prayer ministry at Frazer has been that teaching that Christ is with you and he is sending you as his ambassador, as an envoy for his spirit. That's kind of a crazy word that just came to me, but, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: Agents of his grace in the midst of the spiritual battles of this world, if it can be so dramatic to get into spiritual warfare kind of language. Yeah. That we get to be active participants in what he is doing. And prayer is one of the main ways that we get to do that. I think too often we think in the terms of human action where it's like, okay, well, I've got to go to this place and do this thing. And plenty of times God calls us and equips us to do things that are outside of prayer. But so much of the time, we as Christians underestimate how much God really can do just through prayer and do in us when we sit and are still in silence and allow his voice and his word to transform us.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:06] Speaker D: And it's just so vital, you know, that when we go out, you know, when we put ourselves out there to share the gospel or to serve that connection with God right here, and that awareness of him is essential for us to be sustained, to be, you know, operating in righteousness that Christ has given to us. You know, so prayer is like. It's like the first necessary ingredient for a lot of the things that we have the ambition to do as Christians.
So I think that as we are looking forward to, you know, this year of ministry at Frazer and the years to come, I think what's always been a part of the DNA of this ministry and will continue to be is we're going to have special spaces and times of meeting with God. We're going to continue to facilitate that, and we're also going to minister in such a way that we want others to learn how to host the presence of God in their individual spaces and in their individual life, in their hearts and minds, that they would be empowered to know and feel that they are his dwelling, that they are his temple, that that would be something that we see growing in this church, that individuals who right now Today may say, you know, I asked God for help, but I just don't know how to pray, or I don't really know what else there is to do in prayer that those people, through our prayer ministry, would come to know that prayer is the lifeblood of their day.
It's the thing that keeps them energized and keeps them connected to God and to their family in Christ.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:27:56] Speaker C: Well, you're saying things that. I have a note here about talking about that we are that temple. Okay. You know, in the same vein, Jesus said, my house will be a house of prayer. And of course, when he said that, he was literally looking to the temple. And, you know, even when Isaiah, you know, in the past.
But you made the point. We're the temples. We're to be the house of prayer.
[00:28:18] Speaker D: Amen.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: You know, and there's a difference in having a prayer life and having a life of prayer.
And in all honesty, I think that has been the underlying thing here, that we want people to know God. We want people to know Jesus.
If you don't pray, you're really not going to know Jesus.
Okay.
And if you don't know Jesus, you're not going to pray. And so those things have to come together. And that has been. I know my heart's desire that people will want to pray. And probably if I've ever been discouraged, it's not because people don't pray. It's because I, you know, do we know God enough to want to pray?
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:04] Speaker C: So, you know, you much more eloquently said all of that, but we are that. We are that temple. And we are. We are to have a life of prayer. It is to be how our heart beats every single day. If we know Jesus Christ as Savior.
[00:29:19] Speaker D: And, you know, that word life is just standing out to me as you're talking. I mean, that it would be our life.
And I think often about John 17, the very beginning of it, Jesus says, this is eternal life.
That I am in you, or I know you, and that you know me and that they would, too. Right. I mean, that's a real paraphrase. But I think about that all the time. Like, how.
How deep does that go? Lord, am I when I choose to be, to know and be known by you? Am I in fact, in eternity right now? Like, that's kind of a crazy thought, right? But we spend most of our lives often thinking in this mode of, well, when I get to heaven, when I get away from life here, or when I go, you know, to the place there's no more trouble and pain and tears then.
But Jesus, in his very moment before we were talking about the Good Friday, in the very moments before his suffering and torture, is saying, this is eternal life.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:25] Speaker D: Knowing you, Father, I think that the heart of what you're saying is reflected in that. That we want people to experience that they can be going through greatest trials, greatest suffering, or through their greatest victories in this life. But the question of whether they're walking in eternal life or towards it is, are they knowing God and being known by God today?
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:51] Speaker D: And now?
[00:30:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, and I think you guys are really already answering this question. But, I mean, my. My final question for. For everyone is what words of encouragement or exhortation or challenge do you have to share with the Frazer family in regards to prayer, in regards to, not our prayer life, but our life of prayer, that was by itself a challenging thought.
How do we live into what it really means to pray without ceasing to be the temple of God, which is also a house of prayer that is instilled in us?
What does that look like? What words of encouragement or challenge do you guys have in that way?
[00:31:37] Speaker B: One of the things that we talked about the other day was the importance of the Word and on several different levels, that we're not going to know Jesus, we're not going to know the Father, unless we see them revealed in the Word of God.
And that we have to spend that time. But then as we spend the time, we learn to pray Scripture and pray God's Word back to him, because he's so eager to fulfill His Word, but he wants us to apply it to the things of life that we're facing. And so I'm so thankful for Pastor Chris and the groundwork he's been laying biblical literacy to help our whole congregation. Yeah, get in the Word and look at how does it apply to me. What is God saying to me today?
So I just encourage us all, as we are in the Word, to pray it back to God. Lord.
It may be a psalm where Lord, help, just like David was saying, but it may be a thankful prayer, it may be a praise prayer. All but not just asking.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: I think I've said it before on the podcast, and I'll probably say it more and more because it really changed my thinking about specifically the role of scripture in the life of the Christian. It was when a professor at Asbury while I was there said, you're giving the holy spirit of vocabulary in your life by reading Scripture, and these are the words that you're going to hear back from the Holy Spirit when you need them. And ever since then. And I could think of times in my life where I knew that was true. And that's why I immediately was like, yeah, that's right. And then, since then, I continue to see it where anytime that you are really digging into Scripture and understanding better and better, I mean, there may even be times where you read something and you're like, I don't get that. And then later on, something happens, and it is amazing how God reveals, you know, through his Holy Spirit.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: This is what I meant. This is for this moment.
That's always a really cool kind of thing. Yeah. So,
[00:33:58] Speaker C: Jackie, you kind of got on my. My thing there, too. But I just. I would want to share something because this has occurred to me.
I became a Christian at 25 as a young woman, and God gave me an insatiable desire for the Word, not prayer.
I didn't become a person of prayer, but as I studied the Word, as I got into the Word, there was something that really meant a lot to me, which. When Jesus says, if you really love me, you're going to obey me. And one of the things I found real quick that the Scripture told me to do was pray. And that's when I got this desire to know how to pray.
And that's why I think when I saw that program, that would go back to you, like, we can do this.
But.
Years later, I guess when we were in circle together, Jackie and I, a woman came to circle and she prayed a prayer. And I remember going, well, that sounds like scripture.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:05] Speaker C: And that was the introduction to really understanding that you've got to know the scripture, but you can pray it. And how many times have I said, God's words are so much more powerful than mine?
But. But I just would want to encourage this congregation. As Jackie said, in talking about Pastor Chris, he is a man who is determined to make us a people of prayer. And I'm so thankful. And so hold on to that and know that I encourage you find a place in prayer ministry. There is a place for everyone. And if you're one of those people that says, well, I don't really know how or how to do, we will show you. We will train you, we will pray with you, we will pray over you.
But. And if not, seek to have the deepest prayer life that you can have, because then God will. He'll reveal you where you need to be and how you need to be serving.
But we all have to be again. If we know Jesus, we've got to find a way to have that life, that life of prayer. But you're in a good place if you're in this congregation right now, because that is your pastor's heart.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Zach, any final thoughts?
[00:36:18] Speaker D: You know, I was praying about that question and this verse from Revelation, I think it's two, four, said, you know, one thing I have against you, that you've forgotten your first love.
I think that on a more heartfelt note, just like Jan was talking about where she was given this insatiable hunger when she first became a Christian, God deposits something in us that is just about everything we need at the very beginning.
And it's so important as we go through the ups and downs of our journey and the ups and downs of praying in seasons, that we intentionally return to those moments and those memories where God showed up for us and it was not because of anything that we did or could have done.
You know, as simple as there are some days where, you know, maybe I don't feel like praying. And it may just be that that one song that I play over and over again is exactly what God is willing to give some grace to and some mercy to me to help me remember all that he's done for me and all we've walked through. So hold. Hold fast to the things that kind of keep you in touch with your first love with Jesus and in touch with the moments that he's saved you over and over again.
And those things will help you to get back into that place of prayer that is so rich and sweet between you and the Lord.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us today, and thank you for joining us. Just want to remind you that if you haven't yet subscribed wherever you get your podcasts or Visit us on YouTube, because that's where you can watch this if you're listening to it. If you wanted to see the video version of it, you can always see us there. Give us a follow, give us a like, give. Give us a review. Share it. All of those things help get the word out. I do also want to mention that if you're listening to this on the week of release, go and listen to Frasier365. The devotionals this week are Zach talking about prayer.
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